Founders on Fire: Arti Raman, CEO and Co-Founder, Titaniam

Today we’re catching up with security firm Titaniam, in particular with CEO and Co-Founder Arti Raman who won the Female CxO Trailblazers Award for 2022. Chief Trailblazer Rose Ross quizzes her to find out more about how Arti found her way into the security arena and became an entrepreneur.

Arti shares how Titaniam protects data, even when firms get breached thanks to stolen or lost identities, and how the problems with Silicon Valley Bank could give scammers the perfect conditions to lure desperate companies into making security-compromising decisions. The conversation also covers the National Cybersecurity strategy that’s come out from the Biden administration and why Arti thinks there’s a valuable change which the security industry at large should embrace.

She also explains how Titaniam finds the right talent and how the security industry as a whole should look more holistically at candidates to increase diversity and inclusion. Watch the full podcast here:

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Interview transcript

Rose Ross: Welcome everybody back to a new edition of the Tech Trailblazers Founders on Fire podcast. My name is Rose Ross, and I’m the founder of the Tech Trailblazers and I’m delighted to be joined today by Arti Raman, who is a CEO and founder of Titaniam. Is that the correct way to pronounce it, Arti?

Arti Raman: Yes, Titaniam. Very much like the metal. Yes.

Rose Ross: Great. I just wanted to check I just wanted to check because I think in the UK we have a ‘um’ rather than ‘am’, so I was going this might be like an “I am” thing, you know, the centre of the cybersecurity world, so I was just checking with it wasn’t ‘um’.

Arti Raman: it is it is traditionally a ‘u’. We did change it to an ‘a’. We wanted to have the name and have the strength around the name but not be bound by other folks that had the ‘u’. So, it was a play on the same word, but definitely, intended to convey everything that titanium conveys, so yeah.

Rose Ross: Fantastic. So, it’d be great to find out a little bit more about Titaniam. You’re in the cybersecurity space, but obviously you are our winner as a female CxO Trailblazer so very much looking forward to hearing a bit more about Titania, and obviously about you.

Arti Raman: Absolutely. Thank you for asking. So, I’m Arti Raman, CEO of Titaniam. Titaniam is a data security company. And it’s unique in that we were founded to close the biggest gap in data security today. And that is that our security systems can’t tell the good guys from the bad guys when the bad guys steal good guys’ identities. So, when an identity is stolen, when a credential is stolen, our systems can’t tell them apart. And this happens over 85% of the time. And so, regardless of all the other protection we put in place, our data gets walked out the front door. So, Titaniam was started to prevent that, like what can we do so that our data can be stored and processed and analyzed in these large systems while still being secure. So, even if you know a bad guy that looks like a good guy or a good guy gone bad or an administrator or some insider gets in, we don’t lose that much data that forces us to pay ransoms and get in trouble with regulators, and actually just violate a whole lot of people’s data privacy. So, that’s why we were started.

The core of what we do is called ‘encryption-in-use’ so we’re able to keep data encrypted, while significant large platforms and applications, process it and use it. So, this is like the heart of what we do. We do a number of other things as well and it’s sort of as a nice segue to introduce myself. So, I have a background in mathematics. Before here I was at Symantec. So, I have a hardcore security background as well. And so the core intellectual property that I created in 2019 was all about searchable encryption/encryption-in-use. And with that, we started Titaniam to basically avoid these massive data breaches and privacy breaches that have been going on even a year before we started.

Of course, it’s only gotten worse since then. But that’s sort of the crux of our company. Now since then, we’ve added a number of other ways to protect data as well into the same platform, so that you don’t have to get us for searchable encryption/encryption-in-use and other people for other stuff. But the whole point is that bad guys are stealing data out the front door and we must stop that.

Rose Ross: So, a very interesting area. I mean, obviously ransomware attacks are on the up for lots of different reasons, you know, bad guys like to have money and if they can get some of yours, pop that in a Bitcoin account, and off we go. So, are you starting to see, I mean, a step change. I mean, obviously, this weekend, as we were just chatting about prior to starting the podcast, is obviously been quite a destructive… well, yeah, I meant to say more disruptive but actually probably quite destructive as well…period, as we’ve seen Silicon Valley Bank collapse over the weekend, much to everybody’s shock. Obviously, that’s been felt over here in the UK, something like 1,500 startup customers were banking with SVB. The assets have been acquired, so they’re rolling forward. But the news is, at the moment, that people will be able to access their money from Monday which is quite a long time, isn’t it? To wait, to be able to get their money.

Arti Raman: It’s Monday today, they’re able to access their funds today. So, you know,…

Rose Ross: So, it was news from yesterday. I kind of got the impression..ah ok, no problem. It’s not quite so shocking that in that case.

Arti Raman: No, no, in fact, there was so much stress piling on over the weekend and you know, starting Thursday actually, and a lot of interbank transfers, a lot of secondary impacts on four or five other banks as people rush to get their money out of smaller banks into bigger banks. So, we’re not done seeing the impact of SVB by a long shot. So that’s still playing out. And I think the biggest challenge, outside of the stress, has been now a lot of companies have money in between/in transit and people are waiting for funds to clear and people are waiting to figure out where they land. Could they do payroll this week? Most companies run payroll a few couple of times a month and with the 15th of March soon, we’re very close to payroll runs for a lot of companies. So, there’s still a bit of stress until this settles down over the next day or two for Silicon Valley Bank. And then I want to say a week for other banks at least.

Rose Ross: As if we haven’t had enough excitement really. So, one of the things I’ve seen some reporting about people saying that this is now going to be a great time for the bad guys, because they love something like this. And obviously people are stressed as you say. They’re concerned about money, some people are concerned about bank rules, and such like and this feels like a great opportunity for people to start phishing attacks. You know, other stuff, while people are a little bit on the back foot. Do you think that that’s something that you were likely to see over the course of the next week or so?

Arti Raman: I do. I most certainly do. What happens in scenarios like this is that your usual checks and balances, they break down and you have to short circuit certain processes in order to meet your emergency deadlines, right. So even over the weekend, we had to do some movement of money, and a lot of it was done in person, which is fine because you can still verify. A lot of documents we are seeing sent back and forth by email that would normally be sent by secure link or other ways. There are a lot of parties involved that we’re talking to that we aren’t typically talking to at these organizations. It’s not my relationship manager at the bank, it’s not the person you know and trust, that’s verified. A lot of people jumping in to help out, so I know that there’s very, very strong opportunities for people to fall fornow, email scams and other such text messaging scams where they are especially vulnerable because they’re moving large sums of money around these days. So, definitely I think it’s ripe for fraud and ripe for scam. We have to be careful.

Rose Ross: Well, yeah. So, everybody be safe out there and be mindful that it may be urgent, but do think carefully. You talked a little bit about… let’s talk on brighter things, perhaps because obviously this has caused a big cloud over Silicon Valley and the rest of the startup world. You talk about a background in statistics, a mathematician. How did you come to choose that path?

Arti Raman: Oh, wow. So, the love for math has been since I was a little kid. So, that’s something that was consistent. What I did learn as I grew up, I developed a love for applying that to the hardest, but most practical problems I could find. In other words, I wasn’t happy with just working with numbers in the back room. I also have a degree in economics which is more of an application. But I find algorithms, like real world practical problem solving via algorithms, to be really, really cool. That’s what I do. I did a startup before this one. And that was very, very similar. We basically had some math that solves some hard enterprise resource allocation problems. And this one is basically applying math to solve searchable encryption problems. So, I find that to be really fascinating and rewarding.

Rose Ross: And you guys, even in a short time, have got rather a lot of accolades, aside from the obviously much-treasured Tech Trailblazers one. You’ve had Gartner been giving you lots of love. IDC and the SIA, we were in the Top Power 100 of ‘women in security’. So, I’m very glad we could get some time with you because I can imagine that your team are keeping you very busy with other things.

What do you see the future will hold, as you said, it’s been a bit of a disruptive time, the markets have taken a bit of a punch on the nose. So, we’ve got a bit of a bloody nose at the moment. We’ve just seen the National Cybersecurity strategy come out from the Biden administration. What did you see? Any thoughts around that? Have you seen anything that piques your interest, either as a potential issue or something that you think is really, really exciting for people?

Arti Raman: Yes, absolutely. So, it’s got the usual ‘make sure you apply proper security to all these different domains’, but it’s got a new angle that I really like and respect, which is that the providers of technology are going to be held to, or are strongly encouraged to, make sure that what they sell has inherent security controls built in. And these controls are cognizant of human error and human failures. In other words, you can’t just make software and say, “hey, you need to make sure you use this properly, so that it protects you the way you’re expecting to be protected.” Because that’s basically what it’s been up until this point, right? The security vendors will ship the software, they’ll be like, “hey, you need to make sure you turn it on”, right? And there’s humans on the other side that aren’t as savvy and that may or may not do it right. In which case it becomes the responsibility of the company that’s purchasing the software.

Now we’re moving in a direction where we’re saying, “hey, the default needs to be secure, you need to make sure that this is human error proof to some extent”, like people need to go out of their way to set this up wrong. And I think that’s really important. And from a data security standpoint, I think even more so, right? Because, at the end of the day, it’s all about the data. So, if you can put something into the data, into the way that you build your product that you run your databases, that means that it’s going to make sure it’s secure unless you tell it that “hey, send this out in clear text otherwise always keep it encrypted”. That’s basically, I think, the only way we get past it. Otherwise, this cat and mouse game, we’re like two steps behind. We’re two steps behind the bad guys, and we need to get in front of it and basically make sure things are secure by default. And I think that the strategy that came out last week is a huge step in that direction.

Now, just having seen all of the plans that come out, and the guidance that comes out, it remains to be seen how this is followed and how it’s implemented and enforced. But I think it’s definitely something that’s exciting and it creates opportunities for companies like us. So, definitely good for us from a business standpoint, but overall, as fighting the good fight, I think this is really a step in the right direction.

Rose Ross: So, security first and security by default.

Arti Raman: Security by default. Exactly, you have to secure the default.

Rose Ross: Yeah. I think we’ve all heard the horror stories. You know, vulnerabilities, which because somebody hasn’t tweaked settings, to lock something down, and as you rightly say, things get overlooked. You think, “Oh, I ticked that box”, but they didn’t or whatever it is. So, it’s important from that perspective, for sure. But I was just catching hold of something that you said. You said that it’s an opportunity for companies like us. So. how is that an opportunity? Because you already do that, right?

Arti Raman: I think it could represent the largest opportunity for us, and it hasn’t been so far. So, up until this point, a company like us, which keeps your data secure in bad attack scenarios… we also do a lot of other things. We do privacy enforcement, we do traditional security like encryption, other types of encryption and tokenization, things like that. But before this, we sold to enterprises, large enterprises, saying “hey, here’s how you keep your data secure”. That was one category of customers.

We sold to SaaS companies, right? You know, “look, you guys have other people’s data, so it’s really important for you to keep it safe. So, use Titaniam and do that so that if something bad happens to you, you don’t compromise 20,000 of your other customers”. That was a category, but I always thought we really should be selling to product companies. We should be selling to the guys that are supplying the software or the databases or the applications within which enterprise data resides because then these enterprises don’t have to buy and bolt us on afterwards. Right? Because right now we go in and we’re like, “hey, what systems are you running? Where can we attach ourselves? How can we make sure that we get in the way the pipeline of the data so that we can secure it” versus if we sell it to the product guys, they can bake us in, right?

And so that, I think, represents the future, because I don’t think data security should be a bolt-on after the fact thing because you inherently are less secure than you would be if it was just in the design, right? So, I’m really hoping that a lot of product companies, security vendors specifically, are going to take notice. Or data-heavy AI/ML, a lot of data-heavy companies are going to take notice, find companies like us and build us into their stack because then we can be the most effective, right? So. that’s why I’m excited.

Rose Ross: It definitely sounds like a great opportunity and I think what comes to mind for me is security at source. So,it’s inherent in all of the products that include Titaniam, which is yes, definitely a good opportunity. And, as you say, it’ll be interesting to see how it pans out. You know, how do you encourage that type of thing within the vendor community, but it does sound like that a spotlight has now been put on this, so you can’t just give people a hammer and then get upset when they don’t just bash a nail in.

Arti Raman: Exactly. Absolutely. Sorry.

Rose Ross: No, carry on.

Arti Raman: An interesting example I do have is Palo Alto Networks does use Titaniam. We have an integration with them that bakes us into one of their product lines. And this is their stock SOAR product, it’s called Cortex Xsoar. And for all of those customers, they have the option to put Titaniam, because it’s already integrated, into that so they can now have all that sensitive data that flows into their security operations centre be secure. We’ve done it once. But I think it’s a really nice example and with this sort of guidance, if we can showcase and leverage that idea into other products, it’ll have more of a significant impact than chasing down customers one by one, but we’ll see. I think you needed to all of it, but this is good.

Rose Ross: Yeah. Well, that sounds encouraging and, as you say, leveling the playing field means that we can be more agile, we can be more secure, which has got to be a good thing over the coming years because, let’s face it, it doesn’t feel like there’s less going on with regards to security issues. So, what does the future hold? Apart from obviously a new sales strategy to target the technology vendor community. What more can we look forward to from you guys?

Arti Raman: Um, so we have changed our messaging a little bit this year, and it’s an interesting change. And so I thought it’s worth talking about. Up until last year, we were talking all about the outcomes. We were driving with respect to security and privacy. And it was really strong, right? We’re saying in the worst of attack compromised scenarios we can protect you or you’ve got a ton of data and all these privacy regulations. We can enforce those for you really efficiently because we do this protect the default.

Now with the looming economic uncertainty, let’s say, we don’t know that it’s a recession, with budget impacts, with layoffs, resource impacts, we’ve realized that we’re solving another aspect of their business, which is that one investment in a platform like ours, it’s addressing lots of different use cases. So, we speak to a consolidation approach now. And I think that is reflecting not just in a positioning for Titaniam, but in what’s actually happening in a lot of companies.

What they’re realizing is that if you stitch together many different solutions over the course of time, you have all these cracks and exposures where these things come together, right? API security, where systems talk to each other, data can be stolen, right? All these different interfaces, etc. Not to mention people have don’t enough people or enough money. So we’re saying that consolidation is actually the way to go. It’s time that your data security was handled consistently, was handled continuously, where you could you could make sure that not just your crown jewels over here are protected but all the 6,500 copies of them everywhere. So, this is like the flavour of the day, which I think is going to be the flavour of years to come.

Where I think that companies are going to look at ways in which they can leverage the quality of enforcement they do in one place across other systems as well. Because again, if we don’t do this, like default high coverage situation, we’re just going to be three steps behind the bad guys, always. So, we have to change the rules of the game, and I think we have the potential to do that. And it’s been well received as well as, as you mentioned, with all the recognitions. Did this answer your question? I’m not sure that I hijacked it and took it in the direction I wanted to.

Rose Ross: That’s fine. That’s your job. You’re a leader. I was stalking you a little bit because I could, before our call, and I noticed you did a really nice shout out to somebody that who… at Symantec, actually… who has some kind of food blog. A gentleman who I think you worked for. Does it ring any bells?

Arti Raman: Shantanu? Oh, yes, I do. I do.

Rose Ross: So, obviously you’ve received recognition as a founder, as a female founder. And people like that obviously have helped shape you and the journey that you’re on. So, is he one of the one of the ones responsible for you now being CEO? That he encouraged you to be so reckless as to become an entrepreneur.

Arti Raman: Symantec was an amazing part of my journey. It was my foot into hardcore security. Before that I did GRC and there aren’t as so many companies.. it’s a little bit of a digression… there aren’t enough companies that take the time and invest in their people in significant ways anymore, in my opinion. Companies expect to hire people that already know what to do and they kind of hand it off. While you stay if you don’t do well then you’re out and the next guy’s in. But companies like Symantec actually build and grow people, so I got incredible training.

I came from GRC which is the all about compliance and meeting compliance into data centre security, hardcore, right? So, the training, the exposure, the confidence building, the team building, all of that, I think, got me interested eventually, in this type of thing. Like diving into information protecting, diving into encryption, not being afraid to get the nuts and bolts. So, I think that was an amazing environment. And Shantanu was my first boss at Symantec. And like I said in my shout out on LinkedIn, it was amazing, things like the team building, the knowledge sharing, the personal encouragement, the support was fantastic. So, he was among my bosses.

I went on, I got promoted and moved up a couple of times. But definitely foundationally he gave me the opportunity. He hired me, from a non-hardcore security world into something that was very, very rigorous. And so I appreciate that opportunity. I will always have a place for him in my heart. Yes.

Rose Ross: Good. Well, hopefully there’s a place for you at his table. He seems to be able to conjure up the most amazing dishes, from what I can tell. So that was interesting that you’ve come from GRC and I think you’ve also touched upon a really important aspect of cybersecurity at the moment, is there’s been talk for I don’t know how long about technology skills gap, getting more people in, getting more women and getting more diverse people in.

So, if you’d not been given that opportunity to make the leap, say a step but it probably felt a bit more like a leap, from GRC into cybersecurity ‘pure’. Do you think that you would have made that step in another way? Or do you think it was the fact that that opened up for you and somebody went, “you know what, she understands this and we like who Arti is. She’s a fit for what we want to do and we can mould her, we can encourage her, we can train her to be what we need, even if she’s not quite got the knowledge base or experience that we need right now”.

Arti Raman: So, I think it’s always a combination. It’s a ‘you don’t clap with one hand’. I think I’m a bit of an unstoppable person anyway. So, I would say that I look for ways and I look to push through walls, however, matching that personality with somebody on the other side that’s willing to let you in is so important. So, I think while you can’t force people to take on cyber, which is like really important, I think everybody should do it. But where there is true desire to make a contribution, willingness to put in the work, and, the ability to actually rise up. Where those exist, I think, it is criminal that there aren’t enough people on the other side willing to give people that opportunity.

Many people in our field are self-taught and they are amazing. So, you need to make sure that you take a close look, if someone’s raising their hand, basically. I mean, I’ll tell you, I’m a PhD dropout. I did half of a PhD then realized I didn’t want to be a teacher. And so I took what I learned and left. The first part of Titaniam, I got asked a lot like, “who has a PhD?” and for a whole year I was like, “gosh, I should have finished that PhD” because I took on something that was really rigorous in the realm of academia, and not having a PhD was hurting. And I was like, okay, what am I going to do? I know I have the caliber because I left, because I wanted to leave.

So, I took I took an alternate approach. I decided to take our algorithms and go through a NIST validation program, which kind of levels the playing field, right? So, we took our algorithms, we overlaid them with NIST algorithms, went through the process, got the approval, and then we were welcomed by the market, right? So there’s always a way, and again I might have hijacked the answer to something that’s a personal story. But getting back to your question, absolutely. I mean you need people on the other side, to open those doors and to basically make those opportunities available and there are so many people that rise up. Another story. I’ll give you back the forum in a second.

Rose Ross: That’s right, you keep going. Did I say that we were going to get this transcribed. We’ll get a transcript at this end, but if your Otter.ai-ing it, we will probably pinch your copy because I’m sure that’s what we’re going to do with anyway. But anyway, carry on, please go on.

Arti Raman: I was gonna say, so in a startup prior, I hired a product manager out of architecture, like he was doing city planning for somewhere in Southern California and he was just so smart. He was so bright, he was so smart, so much promise. And I said, “you know what, you can do anything”. And he jumped over and he became a product manager for that company and he grew and grew and today we have a little reunion at Titaniam. He’s our head of products. And this is somebody that has the exact same story. A lot of stories like this in that company as well. But I definitely believe that people did it for me, I do it for others. I do it all the time. And it has always paid off, not just in skills and outcome, but in loyalty, in culture, just in not giving up and it’s just amazing to surround yourself with people that believe because they believe.

Rose Ross: Yeah, and then you get that diversity around the team. If you don’t all have the same path.

Arti Raman: That’s true.

Rose Ross: Otherwise you just don’t see things. You will all see things in exactly the same way and then you get tripped up because there’s a different way of looking at it. So, one of the things that CISOs have moaned to me about is there’s a, I won’t say running battle, but shall we say continuous arm wrestle with HR professionals. who perhaps don’t see… because obviously, you’re in a startup, so, you’re probably much more involved in the recruitment process because you are overseeing everything. You want to make sure people fit in culturally as well as within your strategy. So, you haven’t, and this is not bashing HR professionals, but just in this particular instance, when people who are a major part of the recruitment process, do not really understand what’s required and maybe will look “oh, well, they need to have five years SOAR experience or they need to have this type of ability and ideally have a degree in cybersecurity or computer science or whatever it is”.

Do you think that the people need to have more meaningful conversations and educate into the recruitment process to say, “hey, this is what we’d like, because this is kind of what we know, should work. But we’re also interested in people who maybe don’t tick all these boxes, but get some people in front of us who maybe are making a transition from a different industry or a different role”. Whether they’re coming from GRC or they’re coming from accountancy, or they’re coming from law enforcement or wherever, or in a different sector, or don’t have the type of degree or even a degree, but as you say, maybe have built up experience through their own, self-learning. Do you think that’s something that’s going to be important if we want to bridge that gap?

Arti Raman: Yeah, what I’ve seen work is to hire security people through specialist recruiters, or people that hire just for our domain, and there I think we have more success and we have the ability to change that process a little bit more, because I think when you look at the generalist HR mindset, then it becomes that you boil it down to these boxes that you check, and it doesn’t work. But I think there’s enough activity in security that can both keep security-focused hiring occupied, as well as yield better results. So now it’s a bit of a cop out answer, but that’s what I’m doing.

So, I basically work with people that understand and know and the other thing we also do is we do like sample profiles. That always helps, right? Like, here’s an example of somebody that’s a great candidate that has a typical background. Here’s an example of somebody that’s also a great candidate that has a very non-typical profile. And another one in here, someone we don’t know but we’d be willing to give an opportunity to, because they’re young, they have this type of education. So, something like that helps, but it’s very difficult to find success by making that one checklist because firstly, there aren’t enough people. And it’s a domain that requires resourceful and creative thinking. You don’t pick it but it is, and it’s hard to check for that. If you just stay with the typical profile. Does that make sense?

Rose Ross: Yeah, I like the sample sort of candidates that you think “this will be a good one, this will be a good one. This would be a good one”. Because I think that allows people to kind of visualize “oh okay, yeah. I don’t have that”. But they do have this which could be really beneficial within that team.

Arti Raman: Yeah, I mean, the other thing that is working is referral networks and they are coming up, obviously not enough but they are coming up. So even for myself, I have a set of people I trust a lot and they have a set of people they trust a lot. And if someone comes through the pipe, through this network, spidering across this network, where somebody at the other end who we trust is saying this person has a skill, then we give them a chance. Now obviously it sounds like “oh wait, I need to know someone to get an opportunity”. That’s not the point. The point is that there’s a lot of these out there. They’re focused even on underrepresented groups and focused on non-traditional backgrounds. So, I think we’re all trying, but those are the strategies that have worked for me so far.

Rose Ross: Fantastic. Fantastic. So, there is another little question for you because I notice that your co-founder has the same surname as you. Nikita, how are you connected to Nikita?

Arti Raman: Ah, so Nikita is my teenage kid. And they are on our patents? They’re in high school. They’re a senior in high school at the moment. So, their best role, I would say, is intern at the moment, post actually writing part of the mathematics which we did together before we even set up Titaniam. So yeah, so that’s them. Now I have other amazing partners in my company. So, our VP of Products and VP of engineering, as well as our CTO, have been with me since super-early days. But Nikita and I didn’t before we even had a company.

Rose Ross: That’s very, very nice. That’s a nice story.

Arti Raman: That’s just it, right? I try balance it. But Nikita has an amazing ability to… now we’re digressing… to think beyond three dimensions. And some of our mathematics goes beyond three dimensions. And when we were writing the equations and we were doing that, they were like, “Hey, Mom, let me just do it for you. Here, give it to me. Let me do it”. I was like, Okay. And so I think it’s a real testament to the fact that young people can be trusted with important things. And when you do, they can produce outcomes that are amazing. And I think my child is really proud that this has been used by companies and so many large organizations are benefiting and saving, doing something meaningful, so definitely a big confidence boost as well.

Rose Ross: Yeah, no, that’s very awesome. So, is there anything else you’d like us to cover today? Because I think we’ve covered an awful lot of ground. It’s been fascinating. So ,thank you very much for being so involved in all of the conversation and taking us off on little adventures down into your world. Is there anything else you’d like to cover?

Arti Raman: Um, well, a little bit of a shout out to my team, because I am a spokesperson and I represent what we do, but we have actually broken… there are many firsts that we have done at Titaniam. I’ll list them. Not just this encryption-in-use/searchable encryption thing. And my partners who all come from big data, and other domains have just done amazing work. So, I wanted to give them a shout out.

So, my VP of Products is Pakshi Rajan. He comes from DataRobot, so he can build massive-scale products for massive-scale companies, which lets a little company like ours solve very big problems. Our VP of Engineering is Karthik, he came to us from Yahoo, from Verizon Media. Again, he ran the ad platform there. So just tons of data and the ability to build systems at scale. Our CTO came from Abbott Labs. So, these folks, I wanted to give them a shout out.

The other thing that I think is important that I want to say is to enterprise CISOs. That there actually is technology today, brought by Titaniam, but there is technology that gives you that final level of protection even after you get breached. And I think we are limited by the number of people that know about us, because up until now, it’s like you do all this security, you do identity, if your identity is breached you’re gone. So, I just sort of want to say that we exist, we address the hardest situations. If you get breached and you have Titaniam, we can give you evidence that you can take to your regulators that your data is still encrypted. So, lots of benefit. Please do reach out. I hope a lot of you listen to Rose’s podcast and we can get some attention via this as well. And that would be amazing for business and amazing for the world.

Rose Ross: Fantastic. Well, Arti, it’s been a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining me today and kicking off our 2023 series. I think we can right royally say we have smashed it out of the park today. So, you’ve been a fantastic guest. So, thank you so much. Yes, thank you everybody for joining us. I’m here with Arti Raman, who’s the CEO and founder of Titaniam who is an emerging and exciting solution in the cybersecurity space. And Arti is our Female Trailblazer of the year. And yes, hopefully you guys will join us for future experiences with amazing founders. But for now you can find us at Techtrailblazers.com or on Twitter @TechTrailblaze or Tech Trailblazers on LinkedIn. Thank you so much for joining us. See you soon. Thank you, Arti.

Arti Raman: Thank you. Take care. Bye bye.

Rose Ross: Fantastic. Thanks. Bye bye now.